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Wayland is annoying me. You can't game with it, a lot of apps don't work properly (screen recording usually), and fractional scaling doesn't work. I know it's technically "the future" but I haven't managed to keep Wayland as my main session more than a couple of days every time I tried. So I'm stuck on Xorg still...

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@lobau recently I’ve been using Linux(Ubuntu with pantheon and gnome) in a virtual machine a lot and WebKitGtk views don’t work on xorg. Also, crashes are a lot more common on xorg, for instance I can’t maximise apps without utm crashing. None of these are problems on wayland tho.

@Suzie97 dunno if that has to do with the VM? I don't have problems with Webkit on Xorg

@lobau you mean fractional scaling _only_ works with it?

Screen recording - I mean apps need to be updated, but we have built-in recording in shell, and for heavy lifting OBS works perfectly.

Games - they... work fine? No idea what you mean really.

@lobau to add to fractional scaling - a thing that only works in wayland is mixed DPI. Before I moved I had a setup like that - a hidpi laptop and a non-hidpi external screen, and wayland (with scale-monitor-framebuffer enabled) was the only session where it actually worked seamlessly. On X11 everything gets super jittery when you e.g. drag windows between the 2 screens, and you can forget about placing a window in between the 2.

For fractional scaling you need scale-monitor-framebuffer too.

@alex_m it's impossible for me to launch Valheim on Wayland from Steam, even on XWayland. I have to be in a full Xorg session for it to launch.

@lobau hm, I think I've seen that with one specific game. What I did for that one was to run it in Proton instead. :)

That said, it's an issue with specific games, not a general rule.

@alex_m I've seen that with some other indie games. For a while I'd then switch to an Xorg session until I gave up and decided to live on Xorg since it's simpler...

@lobau Really ? It's totally different for me. When I switched from Manjaro to Fedora on my main machine ~8 months ago, it took me several days to notice I was running Wayland. Everything works just fine (including gaming, obs and all that stuff with XWayland). Maybe it's because I have an amd graphics card not too recent nor too old... Same goes for my Intel laptop (a Framework) that works like a charm, including fractional scaling (which makes X11 apps blurry though).

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